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		<title>Jamii at 21:48, 22 March 2024</title>
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		<title>Jamii: moved KB 207 to Cryptic Mailman rejection messages</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;moved &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/KB_207&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;KB 207&quot;&gt;KB 207&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Cryptic_Mailman_rejection_messages&quot; title=&quot;Cryptic Mailman rejection messages&quot;&gt;Cryptic Mailman rejection messages&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>Jamii: New page: ===Why are my messages to a Mailman list server rejected?===  Article:207  Created:2003-04-29 14:13:47  Categories:    E-mail    Mailing Lists    Mailman  ====Question or Symptom==== I get...</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: ===Why are my messages to a Mailman list server rejected?===  Article:207  Created:2003-04-29 14:13:47  Categories:    E-mail    Mailing Lists    Mailman  ====Question or Symptom==== I get...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Why are my messages to a Mailman list server rejected?===&lt;br /&gt;
 Article:207&lt;br /&gt;
 Created:2003-04-29 14:13:47&lt;br /&gt;
 Categories:&lt;br /&gt;
   E-mail&lt;br /&gt;
   Mailing Lists&lt;br /&gt;
   Mailman&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Question or Symptom====&lt;br /&gt;
I get a number of cryptic messages back from the Mailman list server&lt;br /&gt;
when I try to post to a list. What&amp;#039;s the deal? Can you explain them?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Resolution====&lt;br /&gt;
Sure. Mailman like most list servers makes sense to postmasters and not too much&lt;br /&gt;
to anyone else. Here are several common issues that come up when posting.&lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;br /&gt;
 1. too many recipients&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;quot;Please trim the recipient list; it is too long.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
   This means you had more than 10 people listed in the To: field. Why is this&lt;br /&gt;
   bad? It most often is used by spammers to send large amounts of junk mail &lt;br /&gt;
   with relative ease. The MM folks recommend just sending a message to the &lt;br /&gt;
   mailing list alone then if you wanted to send it to several other people,&lt;br /&gt;
   send a copy to your list of people.&lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;br /&gt;
 2. post held for approval, moderated list&lt;br /&gt;
   This means the list you&amp;#039;ve sent a message to is moderated. A human looks at&lt;br /&gt;
   each message and decides whether it&amp;#039;s appropriate for the list or not. Your&lt;br /&gt;
   message won&amp;#039;t go out to the list until the moderator has reviewed it.&lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;br /&gt;
 3. post is rejected, not member of list&lt;br /&gt;
   This means the mailing address you&amp;#039;ve posted from is not recognized as &lt;br /&gt;
   being a member of this &amp;quot;members only&amp;quot; mailing list. It&amp;#039;s possible you&amp;#039;ve&lt;br /&gt;
   put an alternative address in your email client&amp;#039;s setup or that you&amp;#039;ve&lt;br /&gt;
   sent mail from a machine that created an odd email address for you. For&lt;br /&gt;
   example, if you&amp;#039;re subscribed as &amp;quot;tori@swcp.com&amp;quot; and you send some email&lt;br /&gt;
   from one of our Unix machines, if might create a from address of:&lt;br /&gt;
      tori@llama.swcp.com&lt;br /&gt;
    These two addresses won&amp;#039;t match and your post will be rejected.&lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;br /&gt;
 4. Message has implicit destination&lt;br /&gt;
   &amp;quot;Blind carbon copies or other implicit destinations are not allowed.  Try&lt;br /&gt;
   reposting your message by explicitly including the list address in &lt;br /&gt;
   the To: or Cc: fields.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;br /&gt;
    Blind carbon copy or BCC: is used to send to someone without that email&lt;br /&gt;
   address appearing in any of the headers. It&amp;#039;s used sometimes to let a third&lt;br /&gt;
   party in on a conversation without one of the members knowing that. It is&lt;br /&gt;
   widely abused by spammers to send you email you don&amp;#039;t want. This is why&lt;br /&gt;
   Mailman prohibits messages with BCCs. The simple fix is send the message&lt;br /&gt;
   to the list in the To field. Don&amp;#039;t add additional people in the BCC. Just&lt;br /&gt;
   send them a copy of the message.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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